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LW Cutt Help
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:25 pm
by JT26
Hey guys. Im trying to get out to Lake Washington soon and fish for Cutts. The only place ill be able to try is inside the bay at seward park, because its sheltered enough for me to feel safe in my raft. Its a pretty deep/long bay so it may hold some cutts. That will be my main target, but i may try for some perch as well.
My questions are:
-Im going to put 12lb test leaded line on a Abu Garcia Ambasueder 5500, will that work?-
-Im really good at spooling up reels tight and good, but for the lead, should i just let the ppl at sportsmans or joes or where ever do it?
-What size rod? i have a 7ft bass bait caster rod, and a bunch of 8'6" salmon/steelhead size rods, so what would be better?
-What patterns for lures should i bring? All i can think of is perch and a plain silver.
This info, plus anymore suggestions or advice you have would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, J.T.
RE:LW Cutt Help
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:32 pm
by fishingmachine
well my advice is 12lb test will work as long as you run a long leader.
a seven foot rod will work
Run a frog pattern
RE:LW Cutt Help
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:41 pm
by kuttkilla
JT26 wrote:Hey guys. Im trying to get out to Lake Washington soon and fish for Cutts. The only place ill be able to try is inside the bay at seward park, because its sheltered enough for me to feel safe in my raft. Its a pretty deep/long bay so it may hold some cutts. That will be my main target, but i may try for some perch as well.
My questions are:
-Im going to put 12lb test leaded line on a Abu Garcia Ambasueder 5500, will that work?-
-Im really good at spooling up reels tight and good, but for the lead, should i just let the ppl at sportsmans or joes or where ever do it?
-What size rod? i have a 7ft bass bait caster rod, and a bunch of 8'6" salmon/steelhead size rods, so what would be better?
-What patterns for lures should i bring? All i can think of is perch and a plain silver.
This info, plus anymore suggestions or advice you have would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, J.T.
Here's what you want to do; listen:
1. Spool your reel yourself...I use an Abu Garcia Ambassaduer so you're good to go there.
2. Use an 8'6" rod that is fairly flexible...don't go too stiff...these fish don't fight like marlin.
3. Troll perch colored needlefish.
4. Troll in 20-40 feet of water and work the weedlines.
5. Pay out 3-5 colors. Vary until you find the fish.
6. Mark bait on your fishfinder...if there is NO bait, move locations.
7. Troll slow... 0.45 - 1.50 MPH.
8. Be patient and don't expect hot action...1 fish per hour is very good.
9. Change lures and use krocodiles if the perch or frog needlefish do not work.
10. Have fun, and be safe in your pursuit of LW cutts.
My best to you,
kk
RE:LW Cutt Help
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:43 pm
by fishingmachine
yeah the man who knows the cutts is the advice you should take from
RE:LW Cutt Help
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:51 pm
by JT26
kuttkilla wrote:JT26 wrote:Hey guys. Im trying to get out to Lake Washington soon and fish for Cutts. The only place ill be able to try is inside the bay at seward park, because its sheltered enough for me to feel safe in my raft. Its a pretty deep/long bay so it may hold some cutts. That will be my main target, but i may try for some perch as well.
My questions are:
-Im going to put 12lb test leaded line on a Abu Garcia Ambasueder 5500, will that work?-
-Im really good at spooling up reels tight and good, but for the lead, should i just let the ppl at sportsmans or joes or where ever do it?
-What size rod? i have a 7ft bass bait caster rod, and a bunch of 8'6" salmon/steelhead size rods, so what would be better?
-What patterns for lures should i bring? All i can think of is perch and a plain silver.
This info, plus anymore suggestions or advice you have would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, J.T.
Here's what you want to do]
Thanks kk that was so helpful!
I have a nice lamiglas 8'6" that is much more sensitive and has is much lighter than others the same size.
I seem to be pretty much set for gear and lures.
One question, what did "5. Pay out 3-5 colors. Vary until you find the fish." mean?
RE:LW Cutt Help
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:52 pm
by fishingmachine
it means let out 3-5 colors on the leaded line
RE:LW Cutt Help
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:54 pm
by kuttkilla
JT26 wrote:
One question, what did "5. Pay out 3-5 colors. Vary until you find the fish." mean?
Sometimes you need to get out 3 colors (to yellow if bought off Cabelas) but sometimes the fish are out 4 colors or 5 colors...each color puts your lure 10 feet deeper than before. 2 colors out = 20 feet out (blue color) 5 colors out = 50 feet out. My experience, however, is there is about 70% reality...what I mean here is that if you are out 3 colors...rather than being down 30 feet (3 x 10 = 30feet) you are probably down 23 feet...just my experience.
kk
RE:LW Cutt Help
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:56 pm
by fishingmachine
yeah that is a good rule to follow as kutt knows what he is talking about and leaded line can really get u down trust me
RE:LW Cutt Help
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:08 pm
by JT26
Thanks kutt. Yeah, kinda same thing with trolling for silvers, we put it down about 25 pulls [close to a foot as posible, but its proboly only 15-19ft.
Also, how should i do the leader [length]? Am i gonna have to use a swivel and reel it all the way into the reel?
RE:LW Cutt Help
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:08 pm
by Rob G.
awesome info, I've never used leaded line before....do you lose anything on the fight with the line being so heavy?
RE:LW Cutt Help
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:08 pm
by kuttkilla
JT26 wrote:
Thanks kk that was so helpful!
Glad to be able to help you out...you should get 3-4 fish if you put in 3-6 hours worth of fishing time...don't give up and get frustrated...many LW anglers do...they call me the kuttkilla cause that's what I do...
RE:LW Cutt Help
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:09 pm
by fishingmachine
yeah exactly kk thats y u are so good cause u put some good time in
RE:LW Cutt Help
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:09 pm
by kuttkilla
Rob G. wrote:awesome info, I've never used leaded line before....do you lose anything on the fight with the line being so heavy?
Just the lure
Rob G. Makes for a heck of a fight. This is why I love this fishery...it's amazing. Cutts aren't known for amazing fights anyways, and NO it does not detract from the fight of the fish...with pop gear, yes it does.
RE:LW Cutt Help
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:36 pm
by gpc
Hey Jt, dont worry about taking your line to the store to get it spooled on. I think this is totaly overated. I have spooled my line out in the boat, rain, snow while drivin and drunk as a skunk from 2lb test all the way up to leaded line. Plus I change my line every 3 months at the most (except with leaded I have had the same stuff on the same real for 5 years). And I own atleast 20 combos, so I have spooled my fair share of reels in my life and have never had a problem with spooling it myself.