Is Using A Jig And A Grub Considered "Bait Fishing"?

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Is Using A Jig And A Grub Considered "Bait Fishing"?

Post by FishingFool » Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:28 am

or a lure?

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RE:Is Using A Jig And A Grub Considered "Bait Fishing"?

Post by dilbert » Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:47 am

If it is scented or flavored its bait. Give it a sniff and a taste (the salty ones are delicious).

From Page 24 of the 2007/2008 regs:

BAIT
Anything that attracts fish or shellfish by
scent and/or flavor. This includes any device
made of feathers, hair, fiber, wood, metal,
glass, cork, leather, rubber, or plastic, which
uses scent and/or flavoring to attract fish or
wildlife.
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RE:Is Using A Jig And A Grub Considered "Bait Fishing"?

Post by Anglinarcher » Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:29 am

dilbert wrote:If it is scented or flavored its bait. Give it a sniff and a taste (the salty ones are delicious).

From Page 24 of the 2007/2008 regs:

BAIT
Anything that attracts fish or shellfish by
scent and/or flavor. This includes any device
made of feathers, hair, fiber, wood, metal,
glass, cork, leather, rubber, or plastic, which
uses scent and/or flavoring to attract fish or
wildlife.
Yea, this has become quite a problem. Do you know how many plastic baits don't come with salt of some other sent now days?

None that I know of.
Too much water, so many fish, too little time.

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RE:Is Using A Jig And A Grub Considered "Bait Fishing"?

Post by Anglinarcher » Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:05 pm

Anglinarcher wrote:
dilbert wrote:If it is scented or flavored its bait. Give it a sniff and a taste (the salty ones are delicious).

From Page 24 of the 2007/2008 regs:

BAIT
Anything that attracts fish or shellfish by
scent and/or flavor. This includes any device
made of feathers, hair, fiber, wood, metal,
glass, cork, leather, rubber, or plastic, which
uses scent and/or flavoring to attract fish or
wildlife.
Yea, this has become quite a problem. Do you know how many plastic baits don't come with salt of some other sent now days?

None that I know of.
Clarification, I have talked to some people in the F & W, and the unofficial position is that in selective gear rules areas, flavored or scented plastics constitute bait. But, for other areas, the trout rule that says you must count all fish caught on bait in your daily limit, rather retained or not, is not enforced for scented or flavored plastics, but for bait itself.]

Here is the catch, no one is willing to "go on the record", so it seems pretty much a gray area to me.

Can I ask why you asked?
Too much water, so many fish, too little time.

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RE:Is Using A Jig And A Grub Considered "Bait Fishing"?

Post by FishingFool » Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:45 am

Anglinarcher wrote:
Anglinarcher wrote:
dilbert wrote:If it is scented or flavored its bait. Give it a sniff and a taste (the salty ones are delicious).

From Page 24 of the 2007/2008 regs:

BAIT
Anything that attracts fish or shellfish by
scent and/or flavor. This includes any device
made of feathers, hair, fiber, wood, metal,
glass, cork, leather, rubber, or plastic, which
uses scent and/or flavoring to attract fish or
wildlife.
Yea, this has become quite a problem. Do you know how many plastic baits don't come with salt of some other sent now days?

None that I know of.
Clarification, I have talked to some people in the F & W, and the unofficial position is that in selective gear rules areas, flavored or scented plastics constitute bait. But, for other areas, the trout rule that says you must count all fish caught on bait in your daily limit, rather retained or not, is not enforced for scented or flavored plastics, but for bait itself.]

Here is the catch, no one is willing to "go on the record", so it seems pretty much a gray area to me.

Can I ask why you asked?
I thought about using this combo to catch and release more trout. That's all.

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RE:Is Using A Jig And A Grub Considered "Bait Fishing"?

Post by dilbert » Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:58 am

(trout)FishingFool wrote:I thought about using this combo to catch and release more trout. That's all.
I'd go with some spinners or rapalas.
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I'm flipping Jigs, you at Kinko's straight flipping copies"

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Post by zen leecher aka Bill W » Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:21 am

I wouldn't worry about it until you found a game warden willing to chew on your rubber worms.

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RE:Is Using A Jig And A Grub Considered "Bait Fishing"?

Post by MikeFishes » Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:19 pm

FishingFool wrote:
Anglinarcher wrote:
Anglinarcher wrote: Yea, this has become quite a problem. Do you know how many plastic baits don't come with salt of some other sent now days?

None that I know of.
Clarification, I have talked to some people in the F & W, and the unofficial position is that in selective gear rules areas, flavored or scented plastics constitute bait. But, for other areas, the trout rule that says you must count all fish caught on bait in your daily limit, rather retained or not, is not enforced for scented or flavored plastics, but for bait itself.]

Here is the catch, no one is willing to "go on the record", so it seems pretty much a gray area to me.

Can I ask why you asked?
I thought about using this combo to catch and release more trout. That's all.
I've thought about this question as well because I can stop at the Slough on the way to/from work and see if I can nab any smallmouth. Since it's a selective rules river, a barbless t-rigged worm might be pretty fun.

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RE:Is Using A Jig And A Grub Considered "Bait Fishing"?

Post by Anglinarcher » Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:34 am

I use to have a plasctic mold that I use to make my own "special" colors with. I may still have a few unflavored, and unscented, plastics around.

I wonder.......
Too much water, so many fish, too little time.

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RE:Is Using A Jig And A Grub Considered "Bait Fishing"?

Post by iPodrodder » Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:52 am

Mikey wrote:
FishingFool wrote:
Anglinarcher wrote: Clarification, I have talked to some people in the F & W, and the unofficial position is that in selective gear rules areas, flavored or scented plastics constitute bait. But, for other areas, the trout rule that says you must count all fish caught on bait in your daily limit, rather retained or not, is not enforced for scented or flavored plastics, but for bait itself.]

Here is the catch, no one is willing to "go on the record", so it seems pretty much a gray area to me.

Can I ask why you asked?
I thought about using this combo to catch and release more trout. That's all.
I've thought about this question as well because I can stop at the Slough on the way to/from work and see if I can nab any smallmouth. Since it's a selective rules river, a barbless t-rigged worm might be pretty fun.
Just remember that the slough is closed until the first of the year. No citations on Christmas if I can help it!

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RE:Is Using A Jig And A Grub Considered "Bait Fishing"?

Post by Anglinarcher » Tue Dec 25, 2007 12:10 am

iPodrodder wrote:
Mikey wrote:
FishingFool wrote: I thought about using this combo to catch and release more trout. That's all.
I've thought about this question as well because I can stop at the Slough on the way to/from work and see if I can nab any smallmouth. Since it's a selective rules river, a barbless t-rigged worm might be pretty fun.
Just remember that the slough is closed until the first of the year. No citations on Christmas if I can help it!
If I went out on Christmas Day, a nice warm jail cell would be so much better than home when I got back. (LOL)

No need to worry.
Too much water, so many fish, too little time.

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RE:Is Using A Jig And A Grub Considered "Bait Fishing"?

Post by HillbillyGeek » Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:27 pm

There are still a few soft plastics that are not scented. When I use them, I add scent. There are thick oily scents that cling, and there are marinades that actually penetrate the plastic. It would be difficult for a game warden to determine whether or not scent had been added, and frankly, I think they have more important things to do than go around sniffing plastic worms.
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