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4 wheel drive vs all wheel drive for retrieving????
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 7:12 pm
by Fish Antics
I have a 16 ft Lund and a heavier 16 foot Olympic. I have always had a 4wd Blazer to retrieve the boats at the ramp. Slippery or not, it always crawls up the ramp without a problem. I even launched my old 24 footer.
With so many new vehicles offering all wheel drive (AWD) I wondered if anyone has any experience with AWD at the ramp? Good or bad?????
Thanks!
RE:4 wheel drive vs all wheel drive for retrieving????
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:55 pm
by Anglinarcher
Micropterus wrote:I have a 16 ft Lund and a heavier 16 foot Olympic. I have always had a 4wd Blazer to retrieve the boats at the ramp. Slippery or not, it always crawls up the ramp without a problem. I even launched my old 24 footer.
With so many new vehicles offering all wheel drive (AWD) I wondered if anyone has any experience with AWD at the ramp? Good or bad?????
Thanks!
I think you need to research the term AWD just a bit more. For example, a 4WD with a limited slip differential is indeed different than an AWD, but if you don't have the limited slip, what is the effective difference?
As I understand it, with an AWD, the power goes to the wheel(s) that need it, with all four wheels able to be driven. With a 4WD, it does the same, except you need to go from 2WD to 4WD to do it. With an AWD, it is always available, but with a 4WD, you need to engage it.
So, what would be the difference except that AWD use to be less energy efficient than a 4WD. Now I think that weight losses due to the change in differential design and transfer cases eliminate much of that advantage.
RE:4 wheel drive vs all wheel drive for retrieving????
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:10 pm
by danielt
Are you saying you use 4WD every time you pull your boat out no matter what? Ive never put my truck or seen anyone else use 4WD to pull a boat out of the water under regular weather conditions.
RE:4 wheel drive vs all wheel drive for retrieving????
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:02 pm
by tcb
danielt wrote:Are you saying you use 4WD every time you pull your boat out no matter what? Ive never put my truck or seen anyone else use 4WD to pull a boat out of the water under regular weather conditions.
Daniel I disagree a bit.
it can depend heavily on your ramp angles, ramp material (paved vs. gravel) boat size, truck size, etc.
I have an AWD vehicle, and never worry about it. I have seen a couple of youtube videos of non-4wd vehicles getting stuck on ramps.
tcb
RE:4 wheel drive vs all wheel drive for retrieving????
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:11 pm
by danielt
I agree that you might have to sometimes but Ive never heard of a person doing it every time regardless of weather or ramp conditions. From the sounds of the original post that's just what I picked up from it.
RE:4 wheel drive vs all wheel drive for retrieving????
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:46 pm
by Fish Antics
I seldom have to use 4WD to retrieve at the ramp. I just like to have it if I notice other people are having trouble and the ramp is steep, covered in slippery stuff, and/or wet.
Some of the unimproved saltwater ramps I used in Alaska called for lots of traction. Maybe I just picked up a mindset that I could always reach for 4 wheel if I thought I needed it.
Originally, I used my gas-guzzling 8 cylinder truck to haul out my 24 foot Bayliner from a variety of ramps. Lots of power. Never an issue.
Now I use my Blazer, but ended up with much lighter boats.
I am considering downsizing my vehicle. To side-step the extra cost for 4WD and because some of the new lighter vehicles have AWD, I wondered if it would always do the job. I agree that many ramps are low gradient and don’t need it.
I appreciate the comments . . . sounds like AWD will be fine.