RANT!!!!

[scott080379]

:shaking: I will start off by saying I hate relying on other people and it's time to find a trailer or a truck for my little boat.

So this wil lbe twoo weeks in a row, that my so caleld "friend" was goign to pick up my boat and we were going to go fishing. Oh and two times in a row is is to damn drunk to get his ARS out of bed. The sad thing he has asked me both times if I wanted to go fishing.

Talked to him lastnigh ans he said " I am jsut going bowling ans goign to have a couple of beers, I am driving. This makes it four time times now that he has baailed on me due to BS reasons. Not to mention the other so called"friend" that was coming with us, is also too darn drunk as well.

I thinking I will jsut go buy my salt water license today and see what I can catch of the shore line:-({|=

Got my butt up at 345 this mornign so we could load the oat up and get to the lake early. Here is is 7 am and still sleeping.

Don't get me wrong I love some beer and will drink the heck out of it, but whe nI know I got to get up early or have plans the next day I am smart about it.

Why can't people just do what they say they are going to do.


Sorry for the rant, just needed to vent.

[racfish]

Youre rant is totally understood.Many a time I'd launch and wait for friends to show up.Thats why I dont usually go too much anymore.If someone wants to fish with me its be at my house early or spend the night.Nothing is worse then being ready and all gassed up to have no shows.I try not to fish with guys from AA.I'm not a drinker so I cant relate to those that do drink heavy.You rant all you want. Its one of the free non taxable things we can do anymore .

[wolverine]

My rule is that I'll wait 15 minutes from the agreed to meet time. If the agreed time was 4 AM don't call me at 4:15 and say that you'll be there at 5. Sorry but the boat leaves at 4:15. I have no fishing buddies that feel that getting piss ass drunk the night before is the way to go. There is way more to life than pounding down suds. Do I drink? Yes. The occasional beer or glass of wine with dinner, but a hundred dollar bill would more than cover my annual alcohol consumption.
Scott, hang in there and find your self some friends that are more responsible.

[flippinfool]

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:shaking: I will start off by saying I hate relying on other people and it's time to find a trailer or a truck for my little boat.

So this wil lbe twoo weeks in a row, that my so caleld "friend" was goign to pick up my boat and we were going to go fishing. Oh and two times in a row is is to damn drunk to get his ARS out of bed. The sad thing he has asked me both times if I wanted to go fishing.

Talked to him lastnigh ans he said " I am jsut going bowling ans goign to have a couple of beers, I am driving. This makes it four time times now that he has baailed on me due to BS reasons. Not to mention the other so called"friend" that was coming with us, is also too darn drunk as well.

I thinking I will jsut go buy my salt water license today and see what I can catch of the shore line:-({|=

Got my butt up at 345 this mornign so we could load the oat up and get to the lake early. Here is is 7 am and still sleeping.

Don't get me wrong I love some beer and will drink the heck out of it, but whe nI know I got to get up early or have plans the next day I am smart about it.

Why can't people just do what they say they are going to do.


Sorry for the rant, just needed to vent.

TIME OUT:colors: CHECK OUT THE FISHIN BUDDIES THREAD IF YOU WANNA GO HIT ME UP NO BS NO NO SHOWS NO DRUNKS :compress: :compress:

[Toni]

I am sorry that you missed your fishing day. It is a great disappointment.
My son and I use to go fishing all the time when he was 14 and he would help me load the boat in the pickup. Then he stopped wanting to go so I found a boat and trailer for $175.00 so I could go by myself without waiting for someone.
Alcohol is a whole different avenue. He disappointed you but since he was driving he endangered others.

If you have a boat you may want to look around for a trailer. If the boat is light weight you may be able to tow it with a car.

I already had the boat but for $175.00 the extra boat was a plus.

[Dave]

Your experience is a bummer for sure and you have every right to be upset with your friend. I choose my fishing partners wisely and would only tolerate someone standing me up to go fishin once and that would be the last time without question. I would rather fish alone than fish with someone who drank all night and still had alcohol on their breath. So I understand your frustration and think that your friends desire to drink outweighs his desire to go fishin. Sorry to hear about this but at least you know where his priorities are.

[Big D]

Hey scott080379,
I feel your pain. My old grandfather used to say"You can't depend on the undependable and a leopard can’t change its spots and in my life I have found that to be very true. I have one great true friend. We grew up together, went to school together, went in the military together and now we go fishing together often. The only issue I have with our relationship is that he is hard core alcoholic. I learned along time ago that I can’t change him or stop him from drinking to excess. I did however have a come to Jesus conversation with him along time ago. I explained to him that his drinking was starting to get in the way of our friendship. I told him that I would always be his friend but that if he wanted to continue to go fishing with me he would have to figure out a way to get his drinking under control while he was with me. We worked out a plan that involved several different rules about his drinking. 1) Be up and ready to go at the designated time. 2) No more than a six pack in my boat at any time and I provide the six pack. 3) I get to drink two of the beers from said six pack. 4) I get to give away two of the beers from said six pack at the boat launch. 5) Two of the beers belong to my friend.
Most of the time I drop my friend off at his house and still have a full six pack left in my boat. He hasn’t caught on that I’ve been using the same six pack for about three months. The trick for me was to find out which kind of beer sucked the worst and he would not drink. So far my plan has worked out. I’ve only had to leave my friend setting at home wondering where I was once because he wasn’t ready on time due to being drunk the night before. Now he understands that I will follow through on what I’ve told him. We talk a lot about the meaning of life while we are out fishing and my friend just admitted to me last week that he is an alcoholic. I think he's starting to figure it out. I offered him my help and left it at that. I'm not holding my breath but for him to admit to me that he has an issue is a big step.

My point is that you can find a way. Be creative.
You can purchase a tow vehicle.
You can add a hitch to your vehicle.
You can go fishing alone.
You can get a dog to go with you so you won’t be fishing alone.
You can find new friends.
You can talk to your existing friends and tell them how you feel, if they are true friends they will eventually understand.
The possibilities are endless.
Good luck.

[fishaholictaz]

I had that come to jesus conversation with my DAD D it was sure very hard but we HAVE to set boundaries with our friends and family because if we don't the resentment builds way to fast! I am glad your friend is opening his eyes to his disease that is one thing I am yet to get from my father....



Scott you just got to set some boundaries like D has done it is hard but not as hard as carrying a friend or family member!

Good luck

[scott080379]

Thaks for all the reply's everyone. So to answer a couple of questions/comments. I have a jeep grand cherokee with a V8, so towing a baot will be no problem. I just need to get a hitch installed on it.

So I went out and got my salt water license and went fishing at Indianola today. Some alright fishing, nothing worth keeping. Caught a 18inch chinook though (too bad the linit size is 22inches). Either way was glad I caught something. Got a couple of good location from so people down there that were jsut checking to see if the fishing was good. Did a little bait fishing as well, caught a couple of small flounders and bull heads (anyone know what bullheads are really cald?). Also caught some baby Kings that were jsut released fro mthe hatchery a few days agao. I felt bad for catch them.

My "friend" called me around 1130 and said he was sorry and that he was a A-HOLE. I told him that not to call me if he wants to go fishing any more. He didn't take the veryy well and asked where I was at. I told him and about a hour later he showed up with new gear. I know that part of his drinking right now is because his Wife hasn't moved out here yet and is gettign his time out on the town drinking done before she moves out here in a couple of months. Not that makes any better, but a man wants his freedome I guess. I get my freedome from my wife when I go fish. But as soon as my son is old enough I know the wife and both kids are coming out with me.

I might be selling the boat after today and just buying one big enough to take the entire fam out on and soemthing I can load and unlad myself in a few months.


Either way, even though I had to deal with some flaks today, it was still a good day of fishing.

[scott080379]

Hey scott080379,
I feel your pain. My old grandfather used to say"You can't depend on the undependable and a leopard can’t change its spots and in my life I have found that to be very true. I have one great true friend. We grew up together, went to school together, went in the military together and now we go fishing together often. The only issue I have with our relationship is that he is hard core alcoholic. I learned along time ago that I can’t change him or stop him from drinking to excess. I did however have a come to Jesus conversation with him along time ago. I explained to him that his drinking was starting to get in the way of our friendship. I told him that I would always be his friend but that if he wanted to continue to go fishing with me he would have to figure out a way to get his drinking under control while he was with me. We worked out a plan that involved several different rules about his drinking. 1) Be up and ready to go at the designated time. 2) No more than a six pack in my boat at any time and I provide the six pack. 3) I get to drink two of the beers from said six pack. 4) I get to give away two of the beers from said six pack at the boat launch. 5) Two of the beers belong to my friend.
Most of the time I drop my friend off at his house and still have a full six pack left in my boat. He hasn’t caught on that I’ve been using the same six pack for about three months. The trick for me was to find out which kind of beer sucked the worst and he would not drink. So far my plan has worked out. I’ve only had to leave my friend setting at home wondering where I was once because he wasn’t ready on time due to being drunk the night before. Now he understands that I will follow through on what I’ve told him. We talk a lot about the meaning of life while we are out fishing and my friend just admitted to me last week that he is an alcoholic. I think he's starting to figure it out. I offered him my help and left it at that. I'm not holding my breath but for him to admit to me that he has an issue is a big step.

My point is that you can find a way. Be creative.
You can purchase a tow vehicle.
You can add a hitch to your vehicle.
You can go fishing alone.
You can get a dog to go with you so you won’t be fishing alone.
You can find new friends.
You can talk to your existing friends and tell them how you feel, if they are true friends they will eventually understand.
The possibilities are endless.
Good luck.

I like those rules. I wouldn't say my friend is a alcoholic. Just because there has been other times where we plan of going fishing and doesn't go out and drink. A lot of his problem is piss poor planning and probably some self controll. I almost went out to play some pool laast night and have a couple of beers with a other friend but decided that I didn't want to get home at 1am and then wake up at 4 to go fishing.

Oh and I can't take my dog with me, if he sees water, you can't keep him out of it.

[scott080379]

:colors: :colors: :colors:

:shaking: I will start off by saying I hate relying on other people and it's time to find a trailer or a truck for my little boat.

So this wil lbe twoo weeks in a row, that my so caleld "friend" was goign to pick up my boat and we were going to go fishing. Oh and two times in a row is is to damn drunk to get his ARS out of bed. The sad thing he has asked me both times if I wanted to go fishing.

Talked to him lastnigh ans he said " I am jsut going bowling ans goign to have a couple of beers, I am driving. This makes it four time times now that he has baailed on me due to BS reasons. Not to mention the other so called"friend" that was coming with us, is also too darn drunk as well.

I thinking I will jsut go buy my salt water license today and see what I can catch of the shore line:-({|=

Got my butt up at 345 this mornign so we could load the oat up and get to the lake early. Here is is 7 am and still sleeping.

Don't get me wrong I love some beer and will drink the heck out of it, but whe nI know I got to get up early or have plans the next day I am smart about it.

Why can't people just do what they say they are going to do.


Sorry for the rant, just needed to vent.

TIME OUT:colors: CHECK OUT THE FISHIN BUDDIES THREAD IF YOU WANNA GO HIT ME UP NO BS NO NO SHOWS NO DRUNKS :compress: :compress:

I will hit you up for sure, where are you located? Just so I know how far of a drive I am looking at when we do hook up?

thank you

[davidwat1]

I'll vouch for Flippinfool, he's a good guy and a fun dude to share a day on the water with! Best - Dave

[ryan2202]

That's alright man, just let it out...its all good...we're here for ya! We've been there, sometimes I'm still gullible enough to keep waiting...it pisses me off too...

[mav186]

Thaks for all the reply's everyone. So to answer a couple of questions/comments. I have a jeep grand cherokee with a V8, so towing a baot will be no problem. I just need to get a hitch installed on it.

So I went out and got my salt water license and went fishing at Indianola today. Some alright fishing, nothing worth keeping. Caught a 18inch chinook though (too bad the linit size is 22inches). Either way was glad I caught something. Got a couple of good location from so people down there that were jsut checking to see if the fishing was good. Did a little bait fishing as well, caught a couple of small flounders and bull heads (anyone know what bullheads are really cald?). Also caught some baby Kings that were jsut released fro mthe hatchery a few days agao. I felt bad for catch them.

My "friend" called me around 1130 and said he was sorry and that he was a A-HOLE. I told him that not to call me if he wants to go fishing any more. He didn't take the veryy well and asked where I was at. I told him and about a hour later he showed up with new gear. I know that part of his drinking right now is because his Wife hasn't moved out here yet and is gettign his time out on the town drinking done before she moves out here in a couple of months. Not that makes any better, but a man wants his freedome I guess. I get my freedome from my wife when I go fish. But as soon as my son is old enough I know the wife and both kids are coming out with me.

I might be selling the boat after today and just buying one big enough to take the entire fam out on and soemthing I can load and unlad myself in a few months.


Either way, even though I had to deal with some flaks today, it was still a good day of fishing.

Some great advice has been given...and yes, that's why the Fishing Buddies thread was started.
And Scott...just so you know...your 'buddy' will more than likely continue his drinking affair even after his wife moves out here...it has nothing to do with her and everything to do with him.
Good luck and meet some of these great members who really want to share their time with someone who may appreciate it!

[Bodofish]

with out getting sucked into the whole 12 step thing I'll just say.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

That should cover it!