The Why Behind Lake Chelan's Large Kokanee
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The Why Behind Lake Chelan's Large Kokanee
Toni from WannafishaLure.com recently contacted WDFW fisheries and biologists to get their take on why the kokanee at lake Chelan have gotten so big. Here's an article on what they had to say:
Lake Chelan Large Kokanee Explained
Mike Carey - 2/25/2014
There has been speculation exactly why anglers are seeing such large and healthy kokanee in Lake Chelan. Site member Toni (Wannafishalure.com) recently contacted WDFW Fish Management and got these two responses:
From Larry Phillips, Fishery Manager:
"My understanding of Kokanee (based on what I’ve read in the published literature) is that growth is closely related to density. More kokanee=smaller size. Because they are specialized feeders (almost exclusively daphnia which is a species of zooplankton), they can overgraze their forage base. I suspect that in the case of Lake Chelan we had a couple of weak year classes prior to the year-class that supported last year’s fishery. The weak year classes may have been the result of high water or high predation which limited overgrazing. This would have given the prey base a couple years to build and support much higher growth. Obviously this is a guess because I’m not the biologist for that area. Recall that all kokanee are genetically identical to sockeye and most naturally occurring sockeye populations have an associated resident (kokanee) component. Also recall that several 20+ inch kokanee were caught in American last year……so Whatcom Lake (our state source for kokanee) also has high growth potential.
When prey abundance is high kokanee have the potential to get very large. Several other factor can affect growth but it typically comes down to the relationship between kokanee abundance, prey availability, and prey size. Other issues include predation, temperature, and turbidity."
From Travis Maitland, Fish Biologist:
"Larry’s previous explanation to you of what has been going on with the Kokanee in Lake Chelan the last couple of years is “spot on”. I will only elaborate a bit more on a few points that I hope will help answer your questions.
Historical Lake Productivity: Lake Chelan is the textbook example of an oligotrophic body of water. Bodies of water like this tend to be relatively deep, nutrient poor, clear, light transmission is high and the euphotic zone is deep. Even though light penetrates to a considerable depth, primary production of phytoplankton is limited by the lack of nutrients, all of which results in a biologically limited body of water.
Lake Chelan Kokanee history: Although details (Strain and numbers) of stocking history prior to 1933 are missing….we do know that Kokanee were first stocked into Lake Chelan in 1917. WDFW stocked only this initial naturally reproducing stock of kokanee back into the lake from the early 1940's until about 1957. In 1957 Kootenay Lake stock kokanee were introduced as eyed eggs, and in 1966 Whatcom stock kokanee plus, Kootenay stock kokanee began to be stocked as eyed eggs and in later years as fry. Recently only lake Chelan stock (so, a conglomerate of Kootenay, Whatcom and what was originally stocked) are being stocked. There are no records that I know of that point to the ocean going form (Sockeye) ever being stocked into the lake and no genetics work has been conducted to my knowledge.
Recent year classes: During the last couple of years, the Kokanee available in the fishery came off of relatively low adult spawning escapements….and by that I mean the parents of these fish were in relatively low abundance by the time they made it to spawn. As Larry also mentioned, this can also be caused or compounded by things such as predation or high water events that may have taken place on the spawning tributaries.
All of this comes back around to numbers. So, for what information we have at this point…I am comfortable in saying that the fish have grown to some larger sizes in recent years because they have been present in relatively lower densities with the same available food source, thus giving them the opportunity to grow larger. There is no evidence that suggest this is genetically driven.
I have been hearing a few good angler reports as well of good sized Kokanee already this year…..12”-16”.
I hope this has helped and please feel free to contact me if you have any further questions."
Best regards
Travis Maitland
Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife
Dist. 7 Fish Biologist
Wenatchee District Office
3860 Hwy 97a
Wenatchee, WA 98801
(509) 665-3337
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No doubt, the quality of the kokanee in 2013 was phenomenal and hopefully 2014 will prove a repeat. As noted above, fish are beginning to be caught. For my wife and I, last year April was red-hot into early May. Anglers continued to catch fish into the late spring/early summer, but early spring was best. By mid-April the weather generally is pretty good in Chelan, and the crowds are light. The fishery is well worth the drive from east or west side to centrally located Lake Chelan. As a bonus this year, WashingtonLakes.com will be putting on a community potluck get together at Lakeshore RV Park, Saturday May 3rd. You can bring your boat and fish during the day, and then join us for a nice potluck dinner. We'll have gifts from sponsors. Mack's Lures, Fish With Gary, and Hevi-Beads have all donated kokanee items that we'll give away at the potluck. Plus, WashingtonLakes.com will hold a free raffle for even more goodies. You can find more information at WashingtonLakes.com on the Kokanee Forum. *If you need a guide for the event Anton Jones of Darrell and Dads Family Guide Service is offering half-price deals for this event on his boats. You can contact him at: Darrell and Dads Family Guide Service.
See you in Chelan!
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Lake Chelan Large Kokanee Explained
Mike Carey - 2/25/2014
There has been speculation exactly why anglers are seeing such large and healthy kokanee in Lake Chelan. Site member Toni (Wannafishalure.com) recently contacted WDFW Fish Management and got these two responses:
From Larry Phillips, Fishery Manager:
"My understanding of Kokanee (based on what I’ve read in the published literature) is that growth is closely related to density. More kokanee=smaller size. Because they are specialized feeders (almost exclusively daphnia which is a species of zooplankton), they can overgraze their forage base. I suspect that in the case of Lake Chelan we had a couple of weak year classes prior to the year-class that supported last year’s fishery. The weak year classes may have been the result of high water or high predation which limited overgrazing. This would have given the prey base a couple years to build and support much higher growth. Obviously this is a guess because I’m not the biologist for that area. Recall that all kokanee are genetically identical to sockeye and most naturally occurring sockeye populations have an associated resident (kokanee) component. Also recall that several 20+ inch kokanee were caught in American last year……so Whatcom Lake (our state source for kokanee) also has high growth potential.
When prey abundance is high kokanee have the potential to get very large. Several other factor can affect growth but it typically comes down to the relationship between kokanee abundance, prey availability, and prey size. Other issues include predation, temperature, and turbidity."
From Travis Maitland, Fish Biologist:
"Larry’s previous explanation to you of what has been going on with the Kokanee in Lake Chelan the last couple of years is “spot on”. I will only elaborate a bit more on a few points that I hope will help answer your questions.
Historical Lake Productivity: Lake Chelan is the textbook example of an oligotrophic body of water. Bodies of water like this tend to be relatively deep, nutrient poor, clear, light transmission is high and the euphotic zone is deep. Even though light penetrates to a considerable depth, primary production of phytoplankton is limited by the lack of nutrients, all of which results in a biologically limited body of water.
Lake Chelan Kokanee history: Although details (Strain and numbers) of stocking history prior to 1933 are missing….we do know that Kokanee were first stocked into Lake Chelan in 1917. WDFW stocked only this initial naturally reproducing stock of kokanee back into the lake from the early 1940's until about 1957. In 1957 Kootenay Lake stock kokanee were introduced as eyed eggs, and in 1966 Whatcom stock kokanee plus, Kootenay stock kokanee began to be stocked as eyed eggs and in later years as fry. Recently only lake Chelan stock (so, a conglomerate of Kootenay, Whatcom and what was originally stocked) are being stocked. There are no records that I know of that point to the ocean going form (Sockeye) ever being stocked into the lake and no genetics work has been conducted to my knowledge.
Recent year classes: During the last couple of years, the Kokanee available in the fishery came off of relatively low adult spawning escapements….and by that I mean the parents of these fish were in relatively low abundance by the time they made it to spawn. As Larry also mentioned, this can also be caused or compounded by things such as predation or high water events that may have taken place on the spawning tributaries.
All of this comes back around to numbers. So, for what information we have at this point…I am comfortable in saying that the fish have grown to some larger sizes in recent years because they have been present in relatively lower densities with the same available food source, thus giving them the opportunity to grow larger. There is no evidence that suggest this is genetically driven.
I have been hearing a few good angler reports as well of good sized Kokanee already this year…..12”-16”.
I hope this has helped and please feel free to contact me if you have any further questions."
Best regards
Travis Maitland
Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife
Dist. 7 Fish Biologist
Wenatchee District Office
3860 Hwy 97a
Wenatchee, WA 98801
(509) 665-3337
------------------------------------------------------------------------
No doubt, the quality of the kokanee in 2013 was phenomenal and hopefully 2014 will prove a repeat. As noted above, fish are beginning to be caught. For my wife and I, last year April was red-hot into early May. Anglers continued to catch fish into the late spring/early summer, but early spring was best. By mid-April the weather generally is pretty good in Chelan, and the crowds are light. The fishery is well worth the drive from east or west side to centrally located Lake Chelan. As a bonus this year, WashingtonLakes.com will be putting on a community potluck get together at Lakeshore RV Park, Saturday May 3rd. You can bring your boat and fish during the day, and then join us for a nice potluck dinner. We'll have gifts from sponsors. Mack's Lures, Fish With Gary, and Hevi-Beads have all donated kokanee items that we'll give away at the potluck. Plus, WashingtonLakes.com will hold a free raffle for even more goodies. You can find more information at WashingtonLakes.com on the Kokanee Forum. *If you need a guide for the event Anton Jones of Darrell and Dads Family Guide Service is offering half-price deals for this event on his boats. You can contact him at: Darrell and Dads Family Guide Service.
See you in Chelan!
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Re: The Why Behind Lake Chelan's Large Kokanee
All I know is they are big and fight like a wild Steelhead! (just down sized)
I think the biologists are just as confused as everyone else as to why they are so big and there is so many of them. Thanks for posting Mike!
I also have been in contact with a local guide. They have been hitting them good over there and there has been confirmed reports of 2 fish over 18". The fish are deep, main reason for that is that's were there food is and the water is almost the same temperature year around at 60-100". Ill throw up some pictures on Tuesday
I think the biologists are just as confused as everyone else as to why they are so big and there is so many of them. Thanks for posting Mike!
I also have been in contact with a local guide. They have been hitting them good over there and there has been confirmed reports of 2 fish over 18". The fish are deep, main reason for that is that's were there food is and the water is almost the same temperature year around at 60-100". Ill throw up some pictures on Tuesday

Re: The Why Behind Lake Chelan's Large Kokanee
i've been looking for a reason to go over there, that get together and big kokes sounds like a pretty good one.
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Re: The Why Behind Lake Chelan's Large Kokanee
Yup. The amount of free kokanee gear is going to be pretty cool also.obryan214 wrote:i've been looking for a reason to go over there, that get together and big kokes sounds like a pretty good one.
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Re: The Why Behind Lake Chelan's Large Kokanee
its my understanding that lake trout eat a lot of kokanee. this predation may be what is putting the strain on the kokanee population, hence less fish able to eat more food which leads to the big kokanee. its interesting that this really has not been mentioned
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I still think even with the larger fish there wasnt a "population problem." That lake was LOADED last year. I think big Kokanee mean a healthy population
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I consider it my angling duty to help keep the lake from over-populating with kokanee.Steelheadin360 wrote:I still think even with the larger fish there wasnt a "population problem." That lake was LOADED last year. I think big Kokanee mean a healthy population
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WDFW must think the same since our 10 fish limit is still in place.

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Re: The Why Behind Lake Chelan's Large Kokanee
Im leaving early tomorrow morning to go make sure there is enough food to go around!
Re: The Why Behind Lake Chelan's Large Kokanee
Your going to Chelan tomorrow Stealhead? What is the go to lure for kokes over there? I have never been there but think it may be worth it to pull my boat for a weekend or so. The limit is 10 per person?!
Re: The Why Behind Lake Chelan's Large Kokanee
Maybe the Kokanee should be tested for PED's!