Fishing politics

[scott080379]

I know it brings up hate and discontent but I think we need a Fishing politics section, there is so much crap going on with our fisheries salt and fresh. yes some only effect one or the other but there are other topics that effect both, so either we post in more than one area about the same topic or could we possibly make a new section for fishing politics please?


There are far too many people that turn their cheeks to politics revolved around fishing here (or at least it seems) and other sites as well. No one complains or brings it up until it is too late to do something about it. We are constantly having our fishing opportunities taking away or shrunk and yet we still are paying more to fish and yes i have no problem paying to play and I know people have to. But there is more out there that I think people on this site are missing due to the lack of politics that aren't put out on here.

just:-" my .02

[Anonymous]

Thats like container of bait that sat over the summer weekend in your trunk parked in the sun..It stinks. I've seen political forums get down right nasty,no matter how mature peeps are.Seeing were in Wa State the best at wasting tax dollars Id think that this type of forum could get dicey.JMO

[scott080379]

it is bound to, but as long as we keep the topics to what the state is doing as far as our fishing rights then it shouldn't get too bad.....the big thing is people need not to bring stuff like snagging, wild fish retention and what not. This type of forum should stick to just that true politics related to our fishing rights.

Not saying we need it here but it would be nice to have one so I wouldn't have to post bill that are trying to be put in place that effect us fisherman/fisherwoman in the off topic section, since it's not off topic. Even the stuff that just effects fresh water or just salt water fishing should have one section where it goes.

just my .02

There is a lot of bills that have been brought up in the past year that are not even mentioned on this site and to me that means some people aren't being educated on them and even worse know nothing about them. If you fish, even if it's only a few times a year, these are things that we all should discuss and act upon.

But if people want to sit back and just watch our fishing rights get flushed down the crapper than that is fine by me. I will be at the meeting and be fighting for your right, so sit on your couch and feel that you are safe cause as of right now nothing seems to effect you.

NOT DIRECTING THIS AT YOU RACFISH, just saying that people need to know what this state is doing and what other groups and organisations are trying to do to protect or hurt our fishing rights and what not.

[fishnazzi]

Thats like container of bait that sat over the summer weekend in your trunk parked in the sun..It stinks. I've seen political forums get down right nasty,no matter how mature peeps are.Seeing were in Wa State the best at wasting tax dollars Id think that this type of forum could get dicey.JMO

I have to disagree.............strongly. I made a similar request on another web-site(BD) it was on the board in about 15 mins. That site can really get wild.Even there guys seem to keep it pretty civil. With that said.......it has been a very good tool , to get ALL ANGLERS at least informed about trouble with the state. With that forum we have been able to bring LARGE NUMBERS to the various state meetings and public speaking times. It is very easy to throw up your hands and say "we're all screwed the state is just stupid". Sadly with out A way to inform anglers two things become true..............guys can't fight a war they don't know about and sitting waiting for the other guy to do it sucks..................cause he's waiting for you to do it.

[scott080379]

maybe politics is the wrong word to use.....maybe a fishing rights thread where stuff like this can be posted.

http://www.votervoice.net/core.aspx?APP ... &SiteID=-1

http://www.sportsmansalliance4ak.org/pe ... olbay.html

http://www.votervoice.net/Groups/PSA/Ad ... &SiteID=-1

http://wdfw.wa.gov/enforcement/surveys/ ... urvey.html

yes some are old and no they all don't effect us directly but you have to remember that everything that happens on this coast from alaska to CA effects us and puts pressure on the people who make our fishing laws/rules.

[fishnazzi]

Scott.....you are so much better being nice then I...............

[Anonymous]

Dood I never take things too personal. I can get hot real quick but not usually. I would like a forum in which the state could see our concerns along with the Fed Govt. I see adds for open sessions at the capital but they seem to love having these when most folks are working. Kinda makes it hard to attend.I think if we keep it fishing and hunting only its something we all have a stake in and seeing that most of us feel the same it prolly would be good. Once words like Democrat/Republican/Liberal get thrown in ,it will get very nasty very quick.

[fishnazzi]

Well lets hope these guys decide to become players................between home (BD) and my "summer house" (here).........could bring a lot of angry anglers to the state meetings..............Dare to dream.

[scott080379]

Scott.....you are so much better being nice then I...............

lots of practice in the Navy of having to bite my tongue.

[racfish]

I would like to see something more on updated rules. When rivers close when lakes open then shut. The rulebook still shows most all rivers open. The state has a hard time getting out revamped rulings . I would like to see a state supported site with rule changes and updates to quotas. I guess what I would like to see is a forum more imformative as too new updates and rulings.

[fishnazzi]

I think maybe if a person takes the time to read through this http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/fishing-rights/ You will see the numbers of people who are motivated to protect the fishing rights we have today.


I strongly believe that Washington Lakes and all anglers could and would profit from a section dedicated to fighting the state F&G dept.

Either way for freshwater..............this place rocks.

[scott080379]

I would like to see something more on updated rules. When rivers close when lakes open then shut. The rulebook still shows most all rivers open. The state has a hard time getting out revamped rulings . I would like to see a state supported site with rule changes and updates to quotas. I guess what I would like to see is a forum more imformative as too new updates and rulings.

That would be great, but that is not the issue at had. What about when you can't fish at all cause you only care about updated rules and regs for lakes/river? Maybe some of the bills and meeting they are having in Oly could have stopped that ( I know not likely ) but the point is that We need to unite as a whole no matter what site you are from or what kind of water you fish. The only way for us to do that is knowledge, if we don't have that, than we might as all just sell our fishing gear to the people in oregon or Canada and find new hobbies. Yes they like to hold meeting on weekdays when people are working, you think they are going to pay these people over time to sit and listen to us? Well they do from time to time....you say you see these signs for these types of meeting in Oly all the time, well when was the last time you posted the info up here for your fellow fisherman to maybe show up and have a voice. if anyone feels that it would be a waste of your time....well you are wrong. they do listen to us, but we have to show up and if it's only say 5 people of course we aren't going to be heard as loud as 100 people.

This site is great and it would be a great place if it got involved with the PSA or even the CCA:-#

There are plenty of members here, we need to get off our butts and fight for what we pay for a deserve.

[fishnazzi]

This site is great and it would be a great place if it got involved with the PSA or even the CCA:-#






Almost got away with it Scott....................small print almost worked.... Support your local PSA, B.A.S.S., chapters.........they can help, but every angler needs to be involved.

[Gringo Pescador]

I would like to see something more on updated rules. When rivers close when lakes open then shut. The rulebook still shows most all rivers open. The state has a hard time getting out revamped rulings . I would like to see a state supported site with rule changes and updates to quotas. .

Ralph,

Maybe I am reading your post wrong, but do you mean something like this? https://fortress.wa.gov/dfw/erules/efishrules/

I guess what I would like to see is a forum more imformative as too new updates and rulings.

The forums are populated by the users, not the site itself. Not sure if you know about it, but the WDFW sends out emails of emergency rules and other stuff that is going on. I signed up for and get them, most times they are already posted in the forums here before I get a chance to. If you want to sign up for those you can do so here: http://wdfw.wa.gov/lists/

[Anonymous]

I just made it a favorite. Thanks Gringo.. Thats exactly what I was looking for. Sorry guys I wasnt trying to hijack this thread.

[reigndawgs]

I would really like to have updates on how I can support various things regarding fishing. You know, like bills to write my representatives about or petitions to sign, etc. I don't think those issues need to even involve political views in general. I am clueless in that regard and if somebody were to say, Olympia is thinking of doing X and you can support/disagree by doing Y then it gives the rest of us a simple way to support fishing rights.

[fishnazzi]

I would really like to have updates on how I can support various things regarding fishing. You know, like bills to write my representatives about or petitions to sign, etc. I don't think those issues need to even involve political views in general. I am clueless in that regard and if somebody were to say, Olympia is thinking of doing X and you can support/disagree by doing Y then it gives the rest of us a simple way to support fishing rights.

IMO your wishes will come true with a fishing rights forum check it out http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/fishing-rights/

[kevinb]

I certainly like the idea,I can only assume that there will be a few bumps in the road but we need to be
informed and partcipate on several key issues regarding "our" fisheries.
Just one man's opinion is all but I'd rather see the angling community proactive rather than reactive.

[fishnazzi]

I certainly like the idea,I can only assume that there will be a few bumps in the road but we need to be
informed and participate on several key issues regarding "our" fisheries.
Just one man's opinion is all but I'd rather see the angling community proactive rather than reactive.

On that note...........Thursday in Oly. there is going to be a meeting........they are trying to do away with the WDFG commission. Merge it with DNR. The commission finally has a board that seem to be pro sport fishing. IMO the more who show the better of we all will be. These are the kind of things a fishing rights section can and should focus on.


For all the info on meeting on thursday click the link I posted in earlier post.

[Gringo Pescador]

I am sure Mike will chime in on this soon. But even without a political specific forum, there is no reason stuff like this can't be posted in the "Off Topic" forum..