is this how everyone salmon fishes?

[OFFDAAHOOK]

Yep I agree bonk a brat. But snagging is not ok, it is illegal. Its poaching. man another prosnagging comment. what gives?
dont people fish for the sport anymore on here or is it just to fill your freezer no matter what the cost? disgusting.

first of all I am not a snagger and do not advise it at all because I know it is illegal and second if you have a problem with the ethics of the river and it is not sport, than do not fish that river anymore but really anywhere there are major hatchery runs there is going to be unethical ways of fishing just face the facts and fish how you want to fish and do not worry about others thats what I do. Truthfully, I have seen snagging on almost every river I have fished including the cascade, skagit, bogachiel, skookumchuck, cowlitz, quilcene, dungeness, satsop, and yes the skok. Only the nooch, lyre, calawah and sol duc rivers are the only rivers I have not seen a snagger, try fishing there rton, you might not cry and whine as much.

+100

[chongo469]

I don't know why they don't have enforcement out there every day. The revenue from violators in a week could pay for an entire school district. And run our hatcheries!

Because that revenue does not go into WDFW , it goes into court costs and then general fund.... I can say I wish it were as simple as that.... I agree 100% that if all those funds were dumped back into WDFW or enforcement and hatcheries it would solve so many problems... I have not been in the field for over a year now, but can say I don't wanna go back...

[R.Ton]

Yep I agree bonk a brat. But snagging is not ok, it is illegal. Its poaching. man another prosnagging comment. what gives?
dont people fish for the sport anymore on here or is it just to fill your freezer no matter what the cost? disgusting.

first of all I am not a snagger and do not advise it at all because I know it is illegal and second if you have a problem with the ethics of the river and it is not sport, than do not fish that river anymore but really anywhere there are major hatchery runs there is going to be unethical ways of fishing just face the facts and fish how you want to fish and do not worry about others thats what I do. Truthfully, I have seen snagging on almost every river I have fished including the cascade, skagit, bogachiel, skookumchuck, cowlitz, quilcene, dungeness, satsop, and yes the skok. Only the nooch, lyre, calawah and sol duc rivers are the only rivers I have not seen a snagger, try fishing there rton, you might not cry and whine as much.

Do us a favor and report the snaggers ok? A number was put up for everyone to have. Its pretty obvious I am in the very few on here who think flossing is snagging and like others have said, I need to take it up with wdfw. So be it. The killscene eh? I mean quilcene. any advice how to get a fish to bite there? you fish there alot right? should I go with your fish killa and fish a bead? what size bead? do you use a 1mm bead or should I be brave and use a 2mm bead? What color? How long of a leader? in da mouf right? thanks for the help.

[knotabassturd]

R. Ton, re the Quil-

" The killscene eh? I mean quilcene. any advice how to get a fish to bite there? "

Try fishing those coho in the salt and avoid the freshwater IMO. low water coho= easy to spook and the river is running quite low right now. Good luck getting them to bite IMO. But a few seem to be successful at it.

However, if you take Fremont Rd (I think off Linger Longer not Rodgers) I think you can access the salt and try out there with whatever you want. The fish there would probably be much more responsive to swallowing something or at least swiping at it. Just make sure it is barbless single hook (it is the salt).

All IMO (in my opinion) only.

PS- ditto what you said on reporting deliberate snaggers.

[Brat Bonker]

rton, you jelly or something that you don not how to catch a salmon with out being inside a rearing pond? A little confused about spooked fish? It is called spinners and jigs dawg like I previously said "bro", not trying to start anything but you think all drift fisherman are flossers, am I right? Let me guess, you are a die hard float fisherman and you are mad becuase traditional drift fisherman like me tell you that you do not know how to fish because use a float am I correct? I will share some of my knowledge on the 'cene with you if yopu PM me some questions as longs as your big mouth does not go blabbing it everywhere. If you think I am not a legit fisherman so be it, your problem but let me tell you this right now, I do not use a leader over 4ft ever...oh also I am only 16 and probally way more experience salmon and steelheader than you will ever be, I got my first coho when I was 6, landed my first king when I was 9 and hooked my first steelhead when I was 11, I know what I am talking about and I do not need to be called out for something that I do not do, I respect all walks of life as longs as they respect me which I know fish do but not too sure about you?

[R.Ton]

personally guys who floss give us die hard driftfisherman like myself a bad rap. and supporters of guys who use long leaders and brag and post every fish they catch kill the bite and bring that same crap to all the decent holes. I'll fish floats but thats not my game. you will never find my leaders longer than 2 feet max. i'm a bait guy. a master baiter so be it. you should be with me not against me. and dont even start the whole who's better than who deal cuz you are barkin up the wrong tree.

[R.Ton]

and knotty B thanks for the information.

[Brat Bonker]

oh my bad, I was almost thinking that you were some snooty fly guy or something, yeah I love using bait for salmon but my forte is jigs for steelhead (it is just so easy). I have not been using too many eggs because most of mine are bad from being in the freezer for too long or a unzipped bag but I found a good batch and and cured up some that A guy gave me on the quilcene the other day so going to use some eggs this weekend at the quil.

[knotabassturd]

Hey I'm a snooty fly guy so take offense to that

Been flyfishing way more than any other kind of fishing if you count my entire life although in last 10 years or so have been more bobber and worm LOL.

Talk about an angler that has fallen from the ranks...

Anyway guys, let's keep it civil on the boards please. I can understand where some of the frustration comes from but better PMd or left alone (not on public board) IMO.

Good luck to all BTW regardless of fishing method assuming it is legal of course.

[OFFDAAHOOK]

oh my bad, I was almost thinking that you were some snooty fly guy or something, yeah I love using bait for salmon but my forte is jigs for steelhead (it is just so easy). I have not been using too many eggs because most of mine are bad from being in the freezer for too long or a unzipped bag but I found a good batch and and cured up some that A guy gave me on the quilcene the other day so going to use some eggs this weekend at the quil.

hunter keep yo cool man dont let them troll you. i know you fish lagit and you are a true diehard.you do own several loomis str float rods.yo got nothin toprove tothem so just ignore what they say or keep it civil..dont bite on there troll hunter

[Brat Bonker]

my bad, just I am tired of how everyone thinks that there method is the only ethical method and so on, lets just catch some fish, who cares how we catch them as long as you are folowing the regs 110%. Once again I am sorry for my rude comment about fly guys, I guess you can say the same about float guys and drift guys.

[natetreat]

oh my bad, I was almost thinking that you were some snooty fly guy or something, yeah I love using bait for salmon but my forte is jigs for steelhead (it is just so easy). I have not been using too many eggs because most of mine are bad from being in the freezer for too long or a unzipped bag but I found a good batch and and cured up some that A guy gave me on the quilcene the other day so going to use some eggs this weekend at the quil.

hunter keep yo cool man dont let them troll you. i know you fish lagit and you are a true diehard.you do own several loomis str float rods.yo got nothin toprove tothem so just ignore what they say or keep it civil..dont bite on there troll hunter

+1 it's always a troll. Don't let them snag you into getting upset. It's fishing after all, which is relaxing, not a competition. Is it wrong to be proud of the skill that you have? Nope, we all have the marks up on the board. It's an intellectual argument about ethics in angling, and there are no easy answers. When you catch that fish, it doesn't matter in the end.

[OFFDAAHOOK]

my bad, just I am tired of how everyone thinks that there method is the only ethical method and so on, lets just catch some fish, who cares how we catch them as long as you are folowing the regs 110%. Once again I am sorry for my rude comment about fly guys, I guess you can say the same about float guys and drift guys.

hunter you dont need to apology toanyone.. ive seen you hook many fish,bobber jig,bait etc like you seen me ..i aint sayen who but some act likethat/complain cuz they jelly and you right. catch fish and post all you want cuz i know i am ..after all this is fishing site . i met and fished wid yo personally you definately high skilled for being 16 and know you stuff

[natetreat]

my bad, just I am tired of how everyone thinks that there method is the only ethical method and so on, lets just catch some fish, who cares how we catch them as long as you are folowing the regs 110%. Once again I am sorry for my rude comment about fly guys, I guess you can say the same about float guys and drift guys.

hunter you dont need to apology toanyone.. ive seen you hook many fish,bobber jig,bait etc like you seen me ..i aint sayen who but some act likethat/complain cuz they jelly and you right. catch fish and post all you want cuz i know i am ..after all this is fishing site . i met and fished wid yo personally you definately high skilled for being 16 and know you stuff

I may be a bit older, but by jelly do you mean jealous? Pretty sure I fished with ODH before too. All ya'll are top notch, nothing to be sorry about. Although I'm a fly guy sometimes too, I don't get huffy about it. Fish on is fish on, and that's about it.

[knotabassturd]

Brat Bonker- no need to be sorry about the snooty fly guy comment.


Many (not all) fly guys LOVE to be considered snobs/snooty.
They LOVE to to know lots about cigars.
They LOVE to know lots about single malt scotch.
Etc...

In other words, they ARE snooty and wear the title proudly in many cases.

[Brat Bonker]

yeah nate by jelly we mean jealous, geez with all this arguing and nonsense I am compelled to catch some fish, odh you good on the quilcene this weekend, I advise you not to bring you 15ft springer rod, it is bigger than the river in most some spots. 4 fish koho limit bro.

[OFFDAAHOOK]

bonkers i have to take yo up on that soon never been to da q...but now im havin so much funn in my backyard/puy its hard to leave

[Brat Bonker]

yeah I hear you, long drive for ya too, more for me hahaha

[R.Ton]

bonkers i have to take yo up on that soon never been to da q...but now im havin so much funn in my backyard/puy its hard to leave

Hey egghead will you use eggs if you fish da quil? Eyes be watchin.

[zefsidefishing]

i say, just feel it out, if its a river like the skok, hell its a meat fishery , fish for your dinner, if you want meat, you floss its almost a guarantee catch, if your a sport fisherman use your ltitle eggs and a bobber and quit whining to flossers. if its a mostly native river, i wouldnt suggest flosing it just screws over the fish, but when its more hatchery or all hatchery do what you want,. if anyone needs to be complained to, its COMMERCIAL fisherman, they are netted up, slaughtered, flopping on the deck, being kicked, TAKEN IN THE MASS QUANTITIES. fishing is fishing, do it the way you like it, as long as your fishing within the regs of GILLS FORWARD or IN THE MOUTH, and release the foul hooked ones. either way its gonna be legal be a good sport. ive talked to game wardens that floss, but they are cool about it and release foul hooked ones. i believe that flossing isnt bad, but flossing and keeping foul hooked is bad. so just fish how you want too and quit whining on forums about the way some fish.