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Re: Kokanee 2014

Post by Mike Carey » Tue May 27, 2014 12:41 pm

gfakkema wrote:
Mike Carey wrote:gfakkema, Congrats, you're now officially a published writer. :)

http://www.washingtonlakes.com/ReadArticle.aspx?id=582
Thanks Mike. I was kind of hoping for something like that, but was having a hard time with the logistics of the thread post format. Your version is much more cohesive than mine. Maybe I need to re-new that premium membership and do my own, haha.
It will also be featured in this month's newsletter. :)
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Re: Kokanee 2014

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Re: Kokanee 2014

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Re: Kokanee 2014

Post by Toni » Wed May 28, 2014 1:30 pm

I hope that if you have a report you will also put it in the report section. This is where we can go to see what historical data is available for certain lakes. I used it to try to figure out rather Lake Chelan would have an outstanding year. Of course one needs to be a premium member to access the information easily. Otherwise one could go through it page by page.
Here is something abut Lake Chelan but I have done some research and found that kokanee lakes with big kokanee have a pattern they seem to go through no matter where they are...



Lake Chelan Large Kokanee Explained

Mike Carey - 2/25/2014
There has been speculation exactly why anglers are seeing such large and healthy kokanee in Lake Chelan. Site member Toni (Wannafishalure.com) recently contacted WDFW Fish Management and got these two responses:

From Larry Phillips, Fishery Manager:

"My understanding of Kokanee (based on what I’ve read in the published literature) is that growth is closely related to density. More kokanee=smaller size. Because they are specialized feeders (almost exclusively daphnia which is a species of zooplankton), they can overgraze their forage base. I suspect that in the case of Lake Chelan we had a couple of weak year classes prior to the year-class that supported last year’s fishery. The weak year classes may have been the result of high water or high predation which limited overgrazing. This would have given the prey base a couple years to build and support much higher growth. Obviously this is a guess because I’m not the biologist for that area. Recall that all kokanee are genetically identical to sockeye and most naturally occurring sockeye populations have an associated resident (kokanee) component. Also recall that several 20+ inch kokanee were caught in American last year……so Whatcom Lake (our state source for kokanee) also has high growth potential.

When prey abundance is high kokanee have the potential to get very large. Several other factor can affect growth but it typically comes down to the relationship between kokanee abundance, prey availability, and prey size. Other issues include predation, temperature, and turbidity."

From Travis Maitland, Fish Biologist:

"Larry’s previous explanation to you of what has been going on with the Kokanee in Lake Chelan the last couple of years is “spot on”. I will only elaborate a bit more on a few points that I hope will help answer your questions.

Historical Lake Productivity: Lake Chelan is the textbook example of an oligotrophic body of water. Bodies of water like this tend to be relatively deep, nutrient poor, clear, light transmission is high and the euphotic zone is deep. Even though light penetrates to a considerable depth, primary production of phytoplankton is limited by the lack of nutrients, all of which results in a biologically limited body of water.

Lake Chelan Kokanee history: Although details (Strain and numbers) of stocking history prior to 1933 are missing….we do know that Kokanee were first stocked into Lake Chelan in 1917. WDFW stocked only this initial naturally reproducing stock of kokanee back into the lake from the early 1940's until about 1957. In 1957 Kootenay Lake stock kokanee were introduced as eyed eggs, and in 1966 Whatcom stock kokanee plus, Kootenay stock kokanee began to be stocked as eyed eggs and in later years as fry. Recently only lake Chelan stock (so, a conglomerate of Kootenay, Whatcom and what was originally stocked) are being stocked. There are no records that I know of that point to the ocean going form (Sockeye) ever being stocked into the lake and no genetics work has been conducted to my knowledge.

Recent year classes: During the last couple of years, the Kokanee available in the fishery came off of relatively low adult spawning escapements….and by that I mean the parents of these fish were in relatively low abundance by the time they made it to spawn. As Larry also mentioned, this can also be caused or compounded by things such as predation or high water events that may have taken place on the spawning tributaries.

All of this comes back around to numbers. So, for what information we have at this point…I am comfortable in saying that the fish have grown to some larger sizes in recent years because they have been present in relatively lower densities with the same available food source, thus giving them the opportunity to grow larger. There is no evidence that suggest this is genetically driven.

I have been hearing a few good angler reports as well of good sized Kokanee already this year…..12”-16”.
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He said, “Throw your net on the right side of the boat and you will find some.” When they did, they were unable to haul the net in because of the large number of fish.

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Re: Kokanee 2014

Post by gfakkema » Sat Jun 07, 2014 5:31 pm

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Re: Kokanee 2014

Post by FishinMarine » Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:50 pm

Thanks for the informative post. So is the kokanee fishing done for the year now or will they start biting again later ? This is my first year chasing these. Do you know a good source for the Real gold and silver Beads and stuff ??
I like to test my setups in the water at trolling speed, I hold it under the water beside the boat before fishing it and look to see what its doing, sometimes it is a real eye opener and a good way to see how the different dodger types work and how well that transfers to the lure.

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Re: Kokanee 2014

Post by gfakkema » Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:27 am

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Re: Kokanee 2014

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