New River Section

[Aaron]

I will be adding a section for Rivers, Streams and Creeks to the website in the next day or two. I need ideas for the dropdown boxes on the River Report page.

Items I need help with (refer to the lake report submission page for ideas):

Target Species

Methods of Fishing

Tackle Used

Bait Used

Bait/Tackle Colors


The faster you give me ideas, the sooner I can have this section online. I currently have 369 Rivers, 16 Streams and 5794 Creeks.

I'm also looking for ideas on how to trim down the Creek list to a more manageable size.

[bigastrout]

how about stream flow for the drop down boxes? and as for the 5000 creeks maybe just start with the ones listed in the regs they are probrably the most popular anyways. Didn't the old page have a spot to enter a lake that was not on the list? maybe bring that back for people who want to report on creeks not on your list.

[Aaron]

If I added a Streamflow dropdown, what would the options for that dropdown be?

I think you have the right idea. I'll weed out all the creeks that are not in the regs and let people add their own if it's not listed. When I receive one thats not in the list I'll make an official entry for that creek. Thanks.

Still need ideas for the other standard dropdown options... specific to River fishing...

[bigastrout]

Since flow rates vary so much between creeks and rivers, a flow rate of 200 f3/s might be normal on a creek but extremly low on a river. And without adding median stream flow rates to each creek, stream and river bio it won't make any since to anyone. Now I in no way claim to be an expert on stream flow and most of the readers probrably are not either and do not have the cubic foot per second info to report. But we do fish the same streams over and over again we know when the stream is running high or low, when its nearly run dry or flooding and when its an average day. I think the reader could give his honest opinion on the steam flow with those five choices.

1. Nearly Dry
2. Low Flow
3. Average Flow
4. High Flow
5. Flooding

I think it will be usefull say in the spring for trout fishing. If the stream is high or flooding you know the snow is melting fast and its washed the stream out. or if the the snow pack is holding and the flow is average or low and the fishing will be good.

In the Fall this info will be useful for salmon and steelhead.......

[bigastrout]

Here are some ideas specific to river reports for the existing drop down boxes.

Target Species

Steelhead
Whitefish
Northern Pikeminnow
Catfish


Method

Fly From Drift Boat

Tackle Used

Corky and Yarn


Bait Used

Shrimp scent, Anise scent.....
Roe

[Marc Martyn]

I think it would be best to assign numbers to the flow rate. This is important to people that float the rivers like the Yakima. I am planning a weekend float down the Yakima with 5 other guys and we are monitoring the flow rate on Red's Fly Shop Web Page. The Yakima fluctuates quite a bit over the summer due to the irrigation draw and the dam discharge rates. Rates of flow also tell a person about how long it will take to float a designated distance. Example: On the Yakima, you float 1 mile per hour at a flow rate of 1,500 cfs.

I would also add a water clarity box. This can be real important because a river can go from crystal clear to chocolate milk in a matter of hours due to a large rain storm or sudden hot spell with glacier runoff.

[Marc Martyn]

If I added a Streamflow dropdown, what would the options for that dropdown be?

On the larger rivers, start a flow rate at
-under 1,000
1,000-1500
1,500-2,000

I would probably use this unit of graduation until capping off with:
-above 6,000

[Marc Martyn]

Another good subject for a drop box would be:

Major Insects Observed:
Mayfly
Caddis
Stone
Midge
Grasshoppers
Dragon/Damsel Fly
Flying Ant

[Mike Carey]

I like:

1. Nearly Dry
2. Low Flow
3. Average Flow
4. High Flow
5. Flooding

Because most guys aren't going to know the flow rates when they enter reports. If they do they can enter them in the text of the report.

Species to add: pink salmon, chum salmon, coho salmon, chinook salmon, bass, walleye, sturgeon, trout

[fishunt83]

I just got excited for river fishing again.

[Aaron]

Ok guys. Thanks for the suggestions. I'm already into bug testing now so let's put a hold on any new suggestions. Thanks. You'll be seeing this section online very soon.

fishunt83: I know what you mean. I've never been a river fishing kind of angler but after putting everything together for this new area I REALLY want to give it a try.

[racfish]

Dont forget River conditions ie...Muddy,off color,low and clear,high and clear,ect....Also possibly would be a thing on parking conditions or restroom availability.

[Hooked_On_Fish]

MAKE IT HAPPEN CAPTIAN !!!!

[cuervo]

A section about dangers (logjams, slides, new features) both old and new would be cool

[Bodofish]

I like:

1. Nearly Dry
2. Low Flow
3. Average Flow
4. High Flow
5. Flooding

Because most guys aren't going to know the flow rates when they enter reports. If they do they can enter them in the text of the report.

Species to add: pink salmon, chum salmon, coho salmon, chinook salmon, bass, walleye, sturgeon, trout

Mike, you hit it right on the head!!!!

[cuervo]

but all you have to do to know the flow rates is go to the usgs website and look it up. Its super easy and simple and you can see the flows for previous days and years as well

[Bodofish]

but all you have to do to know the flow rates is go to the usgs website and look it up. Its super easy and simple and you can see the flows for previous days and years as well

When all they want to do is click on another section of WL and have it right there with the rest of their info.

[racfish]

For me ,what I like to have is the actual water conditions. Ie... River clarity is a big part of my fishing. Another would be Dam openings. Clarity meaning is the river muddy,off color, very clear. Also, known mud slides on our larger streams and rivers. I dont live close to many rivers.So I dont get to see the river till the sun comes up. It would be nice to know the color of the river. Maybe guys can chime in on what they see. Im hoping all this makes some sense.

[bob johansen]

Here are some ideas specific to river reports for the existing drop down boxes.

Target Species

Steelhead
Whitefish
Northern Pikeminnow
Catfish
Salmon


Method

Fly From Drift Boat
casting from shoreline

Tackle Used

Corky and Yarn
Spinner
Crankbait
Spoon

Bait Used

Shrimp scent, Anise scent.....
Roe

[JohnnyBME]

"I'm also looking for ideas on how to trim down the Creek list to a more manageable size. "

Hey here's a thought. Only include Creeks that have anadromous runs that are fishable. And for us fly guys only places like Rocky ford. Maybe run a quick internet seach for the top ten fly creeks.. just a thought.. thx for all you do!

, Johnny