Puyallup Closes To Sport Fishing...

[Marc Martyn]

And how many of those over 60, like I am, even HAVE a computer? Not to mention there are LOTS of people who don't have computers and don't want one.

What does being over 60 have anything to do with it. If someone doesn't own a computer or want to own a computer, fine that's on them, I really don't care either way, but if they want to keep up to date with any number of topics...go to the local library and use theirs.

Quickly scanning through tribnet.com (News Tribune) the stories are there...I'd be willing to bet it has also appeared in the paper, as well. I'd also be willing to bet that most over the age of 60 know how to read...and read the newspaper on a regular basis.

Using age as an excuse for disregarding personal responsibility is a crutch.

I don't know how long YOU'VE been an 'outdoorsman', but many of those people who are over the age of 60 retired before they were ever forced to use a computer at work and probably didn't have much reason to get one for personal use. That point aside...

It is great to have such a young advocate for us older folks, Dustin. I have thought over the years that snow boarding would be fun, but I am too old to do that kind of recreation. So instead, I spend time with my grand kids, fly fishing and doing research on my computer.

[Dustin07]

My point is this...and I'll break it down dummy style...

...I drive through a town the same I have always done, only to be pulled over by Officer Fife and issued a citation for speeding in a school zone. I look Barney in the eye and tell him,"...the school zone covers a four city block radius around the school...I am five blocks from the school, so how can I be speeding through a school zone!?". Good old Barney looks at me over his Raybans and proceeds to tell me, "Due to safety concerns, the radius of the school zone has been expanded to six city blocks, the notice was disseminated through various media outlets last week...have a nice day.". Time goes by, I go to court to fight the ticket and explain the story the same way I told Officer Fife. The judge then looks at me over his bifocals and proceeds to tell me..."Ignorance is no excuse...pay attention to your surroundings and know where you're at all times...as a driver, it is your responsibility to know where the zone is and what the limits are...".

Funny you would use that example, I was going to use almost the exact same example. We will have to agree to disagree.

[leahcim_dahc]

Dustin07,

I have re-read through all the posts and have come to the conclusion I am not sure what the argument was. Please throw me a bone as I am slightly confused.

If it's in regards to enforcement of the rule change, I suspect (as I said before) they will most likely be giving out sufficient warnings and not just handing out citations from the get go.

[quote="Komo News]The tribe says it will post the areas with warning notices. Wildlife agents say they will patrol both sides of the river asking people to leave, warning that if they don't, they face fines of $109.[/quote]

If it's in regards to being over 60 and not owning a computer...beating a dead horse gets me nowhere, I've said what I have to say about that...end of story.

If it's in regards to WDFW disseminating the information, as I told AMX, other than the usual media outlets such as email notifications, hotlines, word of mouth, newsletters, local newspapers, local news channels, notices, etc., etc. I would have no idea how else it could be done.

[quote="WDFW Press Release]Pattillo said WDFW enforcement officers will patrol the river to ensure the sport fishery closure is being observed.[/quote]

[A9]

How does that fix or change anything? That's your solution? Call the WSP every single time you touch the water? Call when you leave the house, and call when you get to the river to make sure nothing has changed? When you go camping, call before you leave, call once you get to the campsite, and call again every day to make sure no rules have changed while you were there?

My point is sudden, on-the-fly, rule changes better be enforced with nothing more than warnings. If individuals are ticketed for rules that pop up in the middle of a popular season at only a couple days notice, I'd be writing my representatives.

Yes. I constantly keep up with the changing regs and know that when I buy my license I have a responsibility to keep up with the regs that need to be adjusted in-season.

[Dustin07]

Dustin07,

I have re-read through all the posts and have come to the conclusion I am not sure what the argument was. Please throw me a bone as I am slightly confused.

If it's in regards to enforcement of the rule change, I suspect (as I said before) they will most likely be giving out sufficient warnings and not just handing out citations from the get go.

[quote="Komo News]The tribe says it will post the areas with warning notices. Wildlife agents say they will patrol both sides of the river asking people to leave, warning that if they don't, they face fines of $109.

If it's in regards to being over 60 and not owning a computer...beating a dead horse gets me nowhere, I've said what I have to say about that...end of story.

If it's in regards to WDFW disseminating the information, as I told AMX, other than the usual media outlets such as email notifications, hotlines, word of mouth, newsletters, local newspapers, local news channels, notices, etc., etc. I would have no idea how else it could be done.

[quote="WDFW Press Release]Pattillo said WDFW enforcement officers will patrol the river to ensure the sport fishery closure is being observed.[/quote]
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as far as i'm concerned, that quote from KOMO is perfect to as what should be done:

Komo News wrote:
The tribe says it will post the areas with warning notices. Wildlife agents say they will patrol both sides of the river asking people to leave, warning that if they don't, they face fines of $109.

My only argument was that springing a sudden rules change on the public deep into the season should be enforced with warnings rather than instant tickets. A lot of law abiding fishermen were going fishing during this closure after they checked the regs to make sure they were legal. I would hope that the law enforcement agents would use common sense and utilize warnings over instant tickets.