Drinking and smoking at the lake?

[Dave]

I'm not aware of a no smoking law outdoors. Does someone have that info. I will also look to see if I can find anything.

[Dave]

Wow! There is a law. I'm surprised. I doubt it would be enforced unless someone complained to 911 and if that was the case. a warning would likely be issued unless the person who is being contacted was a jerk. I don't know of an officer myself included (and I know many) who would contact someone at a public fishing location or park and tell them it is unlawful to smoke unless there was a complaint.


RCW Chapter 70.160 RCW SMOKING IN PUBLIC PLACES

RCW 70.160.030 Smoking prohibited in public places or places of employment.
No person may smoke in a public place or in any place of employment.

[The Quadfather]

Wow! There is a law. I'm surprised. I doubt it would be enforced unless someone complained to 911 and if that was the case. a warning would likely be issued unless the person who is being contacted was a jerk. I don't know of an officer myself included (and I know many) who would contact someone at a public fishing location or park and tell them it is unlawful to smoke unless there was a complaint.


RCW Chapter 70.160 RCW SMOKING IN PUBLIC PLACES

RCW 70.160.030 Smoking prohibited in public places or places of employment.
No person may smoke in a public place or in any place of employment.

Smoke in the closet of you bedroom When no one else is home. And if you have children living at home.... just quit.
( I don't even smoke... LOL, I take care of cancer patients,,,but I was trying to think of a place that was not public, and only ones closet came to mind)

[kevinb]

I don't care if people smoke, what pisses me off is when idiots smoke at home or in the car with kids.
It should be child abuse and is also a guideline to be poor white trash.

[HillbillyGeek]

I don't care if people smoke, what pisses me off is when idiots smoke at home or in the car with kids.
It should be child abuse and is also a guideline to be poor white trash.

Interesting statement...

Here's a partial list of people who fit your stereotype of idiot, child abuser, and poor white trash:
JFK, FDR, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Winston Churchhill, Albert Einstein, Thomas Edison, Alexander Graham Bell, Samuel Clemens, John Wayne, Frank Sinatra, and Santa Claus.

[tnj8222]

i agree smoking inside with children living in that same house should be child abuse.

[Drewp]

Interesting statement...

Here's a partial list of people who fit your stereotype of idiot, child abuser, and poor white trash:
JFK, FDR, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Winston Churchhill, Albert Einstein, Thomas Edison, Alexander Graham Bell, Samuel Clemens, John Wayne, Frank Sinatra, and Santa Claus.

Note all of those folks are dead now (or don't exist). The health impacts of smoking and second hand smoke were not known in their respective times. By your logic, you seem to be implying that because of some of the great deeds/accomplishments of those folks, it somehow makes other not so great deeds/accomplishments okay.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a smoker. Just not when kids are around and if they are, I turn into ninja smoker. You can't see me. :compress:

[Dave]

Wow! There is a law. I'm surprised. I doubt it would be enforced unless someone complained to 911 and if that was the case. a warning would likely be issued unless the person who is being contacted was a jerk. I don't know of an officer myself included (and I know many) who would contact someone at a public fishing location or park and tell them it is unlawful to smoke unless there was a complaint.


RCW Chapter 70.160 RCW SMOKING IN PUBLIC PLACES

RCW 70.160.030 Smoking prohibited in public places or places of employment.
No person may smoke in a public place or in any place of employment.

CLARIFICATION: The law I provided didn't make sense to me. In all my years of police work I had never heard of a no smoking law that applied OUTSIDE with the exception of the "25 feet" rule. So after posting the info on Tuesday the 21st, I did a little more checking the next day (yesterday) and confirmed that the law I provided DOES NOT APPLY TO OUTDOOR AREAS MORE THAN 25 FEET FROM THE ENTRANCE, EXITS, WINDOWS THAT OPEN, AND VENTILATION INTAKES THAT SERVE AN ENCLOSED AREA WHERE SMOKING IS PROHIBITED. So for all who smoke, you may smoke anywhere outdoors as long as you are 25 feet from buildings where smoking is prohibited. My apology for the mix-up. It didn't make sense to me either.

RCW 70.160.020 Definitions

(2) "Public place" means that portion of any building or vehicle used by and open to the public, regardless of whether the building or vehicle is owned in whole or in part by private persons or entities, the state of Washington, or other public entity, and regardless of whether a fee is charged for admission, and includes a presumptively reasonable minimum distance, as set forth in RCW 70.160.075, of twenty-five feet from entrances, exits, windows that open, and ventilation intakes that serve an enclosed area where smoking is prohibited. A public place does not include a private residence unless the private residence is used to provide licensed child care, foster care, adult care, or other similar social service care on the premises.

Public places include, but are not limited to: Schools, elevators, public conveyances or transportation facilities, museums, concert halls, theaters, auditoriums, exhibition halls, indoor sports arenas, hospitals, nursing homes, health care facilities or clinics, enclosed shopping centers, retail stores, retail service establishments, financial institutions, educational facilities, ticket areas, public hearing facilities, state legislative chambers and immediately adjacent hallways, public restrooms, libraries, restaurants, waiting areas, lobbies, bars, taverns, bowling alleys, skating rinks, casinos, reception areas, and no less than seventy-five percent of the sleeping quarters within a hotel or motel that are rented to guests. A public place does not include a private residence. This chapter is not intended to restrict smoking in private facilities which are occasionally open to the public except upon the occasions when the facility is open to the public.

[Trent Hale]

The Civil War was faught to put an end to Government Opression! Yea we all know it was to stop slavery or was it? The side that won wanted to keep the Government to tell us the people how to live and to police us the people on what we can and can't do! Now they are telling us we can't smoke or drink while fishing! I think its B/S. Next thing you know they will tell you don't drink at the bars. You just might try to drive home drunk! Some times the people must stand up and say we've had enough! Now if the people want to put an end to smoking have your government officials close down to tabacco plants. And the production of wiskey, beer and wine. This should save more lives than ever before. Sounds crazy; well it is.

[HillbillyGeek]

Interesting statement...

Here's a partial list of people who fit your stereotype of idiot, child abuser, and poor white trash:
JFK, FDR, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Winston Churchhill, Albert Einstein, Thomas Edison, Alexander Graham Bell, Samuel Clemens, John Wayne, Frank Sinatra, and Santa Claus.

Note all of those folks are dead now (or don't exist). The health impacts of smoking and second hand smoke were not known in their respective times. By your logic, you seem to be implying that because of some of the great deeds/accomplishments of those folks, it somehow makes other not so great deeds/accomplishments okay.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a smoker. Just not when kids are around and if they are, I turn into ninja smoker. You can't see me. :compress:

I was just trying to point out that stereotypes are usually illogical, and most people use negative stereotypes to justify their own negative feelings (aka hate/jealousy, etc).

Just take a look around and you'll see retarded stereotypes everywhere. Republican vs democrat, religion A vs religion B, rich vs poor, ethnicity A vs ethnicity B, mac vs PC... The list is endless! :pale:

By the way, I also have kids and NEVER smoke inside the house (or garage). [-x

[kevinb]

Hey HBG,
I'm not trying to stereotype but this is usually the case with what I see. I go into a home,typically on the job for
whatever 911 calls. The home is covered in the stench of cigarette smoke with sick kids running around.
Maybe the word "poor" isn't quite right but "lazy" is dead on. It seems while these people smoke they lose the ability
to wash dishes or take out the trash. Then they wonder why their kids have bronchitus all the time.
If you smoke and have childeren...smoke outside. I'm not attacking smokers,I am one. Ironically,I picked it up at the firestation. Go figure.

[stevogima]

Smoking and drinking is a good thing. If you bring a fish home you might get laid too!!!