salmonbarry
3/14/2019 9:19:22 PMWow that's a haul! I have always used pink gulp maggots and have them on at least one of my rods at all times if fishing with other people or on a lake that allows two rods! Good to see the lake is waking up!
Sharphooks
3/15/2019 4:27:44 PMYour success today really surprises me. I've received reports from several folks in the last few days who have fished the lake and they have said the fishing has been extremely slow. They attributed the poor fishing to cold lake water temperature. You obviously had what it took today to motivate the fish into a biting mood. With much warmer weather ahead, lets hope what you experienced today only gets better as we head into spring. .
redroostertail
3/15/2019 11:09:54 PMI believe trout fishing is slower because too many fish are killed. Now the native boats are back in the water at the state park boat launch getting ready to start netting our bass again. Between the Indians stealing our bass and limits of trout being killed our little suburban gem is heading for real trouble.
stevertd2010
3/18/2019 9:13:29 PMYup, and 4 boats of Muckleshoots out today. Not good future for certain. Wait until HB 1579 gets passed and no limits of size or numbers gets placed into effect. Say good bye to what was a fun bass lake in the past.
RobinR40_98
3/16/2019 5:49:51 AMI am part Native American. I don’t net fish however I have fished for my own personal consumption for over 50 years. It is fantastic that you are a great sportsman and release all your catch. Please however do not attack me for my heritage or my desire to consume my catch. I do not hunt in any form, I despise trophy hunting. However I do consume my legal catch! I am proud of my fishing and my heritage. My heritage also includes part Caucasian, trophy hunting and waistful practices come to mind along with arrogance!
Kelson
3/16/2019 8:47:07 AMI was led to believe that Sammamish was single barbless hooks to protect the Koks. I may be wrong, but might check it out. K
MoonValley
3/16/2019 7:54:33 PMI don't think too many trout are being taken. In fact, I think anglers are encouraged to harvest some trout to reduce pressure on the Kokanee. Your comment about "stealing 'our' bass" and "our little suburban gem" is interesting. Who are you including in the "our" here? Who are you excluding? I think my license, regardless of where I live, affords me the same right to fish as anyone else, does it not?
MoonValley
3/16/2019 7:59:16 PMWhen you start making generalized comments about any group based on skin color, your remark can become as racist as any references to natives stealing bass. Neither generalization is fair. I'm sure we could all cite instances where people from a wide variety of people groups have displayed less than admirable behavior in the outdoors.
Honestly, I disagree with many of the policies in place that govern fishing in the state, especially when rights to fish, catch limits, etc are based on ethnicity. But it's the POLICIES I have a problem with, and not the people, as long as they are following the existing rules. And hey, redroostertail, if the law says the tribes can net bass and they're doing so within the limits provided by those laws, they're not stealing anything.
Honestly, I disagree with many of the policies in place that govern fishing in the state, especially when rights to fish, catch limits, etc are based on ethnicity. But it's the POLICIES I have a problem with, and not the people, as long as they are following the existing rules. And hey, redroostertail, if the law says the tribes can net bass and they're doing so within the limits provided by those laws, they're not stealing anything.
MoonValley
3/16/2019 8:00:59 PMBy the way, my first comment should be directed to redroostertail, not to you. I'm not sure how it got posted where it did.
MoonValley
3/16/2019 7:40:07 PMKelson -- Statewide rules apply for trout, so there's no single hook or barbless requirements. Kokanee are catch-and-release only.
FishingTenor
3/16/2019 10:07:10 PMWhen I see fish nets being placed in any water, I get concerned about the fish that are caught and killed without discernment. On Sammamish, are the salmon only being caught after hatchery quotas have been reached? Do the nets allow an endangered species such as the Kokanee to pass through without harm? Are the nets blocking Kokanee from getting to their spawning grounds?
redroostertail
3/17/2019 6:16:49 AMMy comment was not in anyway meant to be racist against any skin color or heritage. Looking back I wish I would have used a different word than stealing. However it is a fact that for the last several years the Muckleshoot tribe has been netting lake Sammamish in the spring specifically to cull bass and othe predators of salmon fry. Nets are strung along the shore line as the water starts to warm and the bass move into their spawning grounds. It has had a huge effect on the quality and quantity of bass in the lake. This is done to try and protect the salmon runs but without any regard for the people who enjoy bass fishing there.
Moonvalley, you ask who I am including when I say “our little gem”? I am including you me and everyone else that enjoys recreational fishing on lake Sammamish. And RobinR40_98 everyone with a valid license has the right to consume their catch. I never said you didn’t. I just believe the cutthroat fishing in lake Sammamish has declined over the years due to the increased pressure and number of people wanting to kill a limit.
Plenty of people have said it on this forum. The native cutthroat in lake Sammamish are a treasure that we as a recreational fishing community have to enjoy and protect at the same time.
Moonvalley, you ask who I am including when I say “our little gem”? I am including you me and everyone else that enjoys recreational fishing on lake Sammamish. And RobinR40_98 everyone with a valid license has the right to consume their catch. I never said you didn’t. I just believe the cutthroat fishing in lake Sammamish has declined over the years due to the increased pressure and number of people wanting to kill a limit.
Plenty of people have said it on this forum. The native cutthroat in lake Sammamish are a treasure that we as a recreational fishing community have to enjoy and protect at the same time.
RobinR40_98
3/17/2019 9:29:47 AMGod bless America and the diversity our great country offers. Thank you redroostertail for your explanation and you Moonvalley for your kind words.
My father was 1/2 Cherokee and my mother 1/4 Chippewa. I’m not a registered Native American nor do I enjoy any of the benefits of being so. Subsistence fishing was a huge part of my father in laws life in Tyonek Alaska. He was a great man that I have always had a immense respect for. My daughter is half Athabaskan Indian from south central Alaska. Her mother was full blooded. She is also descendent of Cherokee and Chippewa through me. She is a registered native along with my beautiful granddaughter.
Subsistence has been a way of life for native Americans since long before anglo’s Settled North America. Along with sports fisherman occasionally that right is abused. I will however give up whatever I need to, to preserve this way of life for these wonderful people.
I do think more needs to be done to control predictors like sea lions, seals and non native species such as northern pike Minos or red rock crab.
As a whole I don’t think sport fishing Lake Sammamish is hurting the health or the overall population. I have yet to catch a Kokanee from here. Are they truly a native fish or were they planted 50 to 60 years ago? Anyone know?
Thank you again everyone for your kind words and support.
GOD BLESS!!!
My father was 1/2 Cherokee and my mother 1/4 Chippewa. I’m not a registered Native American nor do I enjoy any of the benefits of being so. Subsistence fishing was a huge part of my father in laws life in Tyonek Alaska. He was a great man that I have always had a immense respect for. My daughter is half Athabaskan Indian from south central Alaska. Her mother was full blooded. She is also descendent of Cherokee and Chippewa through me. She is a registered native along with my beautiful granddaughter.
Subsistence has been a way of life for native Americans since long before anglo’s Settled North America. Along with sports fisherman occasionally that right is abused. I will however give up whatever I need to, to preserve this way of life for these wonderful people.
I do think more needs to be done to control predictors like sea lions, seals and non native species such as northern pike Minos or red rock crab.
As a whole I don’t think sport fishing Lake Sammamish is hurting the health or the overall population. I have yet to catch a Kokanee from here. Are they truly a native fish or were they planted 50 to 60 years ago? Anyone know?
Thank you again everyone for your kind words and support.
GOD BLESS!!!
RobinR40_98
3/17/2019 6:38:08 PMGod bless America and the diversity our great country offers. Thank you redroostertail for your explanation and you Moonvalley for your kind words.
My father was 1/2 Cherokee and my mother 1/4 Chippewa. I’m not a registered Native American nor do I enjoy any of the benefits of being so. Subsistence fishing was a huge part of my father in laws life in Tyonek Alaska. He was a great man that I have always had a immense respect for. My daughter is half Athabaskan Indian from south central Alaska. Her mother was full blooded. She is also descendent of Cherokee and Chippewa through me. She is a registered native along with my beautiful granddaughter.
Subsistence has been a way of life for native Americans since long before anglo’s Settled North America. Along with sports fisherman occasionally that right is abused. I will however give up whatever I need to, to preserve this way of life for these wonderful people.
I do think more needs to be done to control predictors like sea lions, seals and non native species such as northern pike Minos or red rock crab.
As a whole I don’t think sport fishing Lake Sammamish is hurting the health or the overall population. I have yet to catch a Kokanee from here. Are they truly a native fish or were they planted 50 to 60 years ago? Anyone know?
Thank you again everyone for your kind words and support.
GOD BLESS!!!
My father was 1/2 Cherokee and my mother 1/4 Chippewa. I’m not a registered Native American nor do I enjoy any of the benefits of being so. Subsistence fishing was a huge part of my father in laws life in Tyonek Alaska. He was a great man that I have always had a immense respect for. My daughter is half Athabaskan Indian from south central Alaska. Her mother was full blooded. She is also descendent of Cherokee and Chippewa through me. She is a registered native along with my beautiful granddaughter.
Subsistence has been a way of life for native Americans since long before anglo’s Settled North America. Along with sports fisherman occasionally that right is abused. I will however give up whatever I need to, to preserve this way of life for these wonderful people.
I do think more needs to be done to control predictors like sea lions, seals and non native species such as northern pike Minos or red rock crab.
As a whole I don’t think sport fishing Lake Sammamish is hurting the health or the overall population. I have yet to catch a Kokanee from here. Are they truly a native fish or were they planted 50 to 60 years ago? Anyone know?
Thank you again everyone for your kind words and support.
GOD BLESS!!!
